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Last post 01-16-2007, 9:58 AM by Michael. 3 replies.
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  •  01-12-2007, 11:24 PM 304

    future plans

    any one have any post-conference reflections about the future of our church? It was encouraging to see several people at the conference passionate about our church, but I still can not lose sight of the fact that those attended are an elect few from each parish... I thought it interesting that Thirumeni was not concerened about youths leaving since they ultimately return to have their children raised in the MTC?

     

  •  01-13-2007, 7:51 AM 305 in reply to 304

    Re: future plans

    I think it's a great question to ask the question of "what is the future of the mar thoma church?", but it is vital to remember that we as leaders must do something to continue on the future of the mar thoma church. I personally believe that the future of the mar thoma church is at stake because people do not understand what they are practicing. I for many years did not understand the practices the of the mar thoma church and thought that I would eventually leave the church, but when I actually put an effort to understand what I was practicing, it was then that I fully understood why I was doing what I was, every sunday. For humans it is important for us to understand what we are practicing, otherwise we lose interest or think that it is repetitive. I am going to quote from the book The Teaching Ministry of Congregations by Richard Osmer when he defines practice "...brings into focus the ways a congregation is a community sharing a way of life embodied in its practices, which mediate both traditions of the past and contextual challenges of the present" (page 62). It is our responsiblity as leaders to pass on the traditions to others in our church with a full teaching of the practices of the church....otherwise how can they practice if they dont know why they are doing certain things.

    The tricking part begins on how do we teach the practices of the church without people turning away when they hear "faith and practices of the mar thoma church"? I think we have a great number of creative and intelligent youth that can come up with ways of teaching these topics in a great way that people can understand the practices of the mar thoma church and then continue on the church traditions.

    Do I think the mar thoma church will last? I think because the mar thoma church is based on great traditions and beliefs, God will carry us through, but we as a new generation must remember that it is imperative that we do our part. Though we feel that there just a few of us we have to remember that God can use a few and do great things! In Mathew 9:37 Jesus said to his disciples (which can now be referred to our situation now) "The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field." In this verse, it says that the harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few.....though the workers are few (like how we feel now), it never says that the few workers that are there are incapable of fulfilling His will or attending to the harvest.

    We as the new generation of mar thoma youth have a harvest before us, the question now is, are we going to sit and do nothing, or will the few workers go and change the world?

    Be blessed!

     

  •  01-13-2007, 10:57 PM 306 in reply to 305

    importance of laity

    Coconut, I agree with Betty. I also happen to believe that it is essential we regain a vision for the role the laity are to play or can play in the church.

    One subset of the youths that leave the MTC in N. America do so because they feel they receive inadequate instruction in the Word within the Mar Thoma context. It is also prob. true that a large number of youths who have chosen to remain in the church still "supplement" their spiritual feeding by frequenting other local churches throughout the week. What is ironic is that many of those youths who left were probably very active at one point or another and were seen as the leaders within their ageset. It is hard to imagine how great is our loss by not having them in our pews today.

    I'm not sure how the situation is at your church, but I think one way in which we could benefit is by the implementation of adult Bible study classes along the veins of other local churches. These could be held during Sunday school hours or at other times during the week as are most convenient for the interested parties.

    I think it's too much to expect of the achens that they will be able to fulfill all the roles of teacher in the church. They have many other administrative duties to attend to as well. Therefore, I think it is only by the active participation and leadership by lay members that such programs can really flourish.

    Some of our church members have no doubt been involved in parachurch ministries (e.g., Christian fellowships and Bible studies), esp. during their undergraduate years. If they could use those skills they garnered then to reach the Mar Thoma community, I think the church as a whole would be greatly blessed and more youth would feel their spiritual needs being met. Being actively involved in the church would also help to strengthen their own ties to the church and the greater Mar Thoma community...

    Anyway, those are just some of my thoughts. I'd be interested in any feedback or other comments. 

  •  01-16-2007, 9:58 AM 308 in reply to 304

    Re: future plans

    I thought it interesting that Thirumeni was not concerened about youths leaving since they ultimately return to have their children raised in the MTC?

    Interestingly I came across an article regarding the "religious nones" in the Toronto Star by religion writer Thomas Harpur:

    Jul. 13, 2003. 09:43 AM
    Positive spin on religion stats unwarranted
    TOM HARPUR

    I have waited to be able to take an objective as possible look at the recently released results of the 2001 census. My special interest was in the part focused upon religion. The concern was to allow the major media responses to come in before attempting analysis.
    Most of the figures are now well-known and there's little point in repeating them. Some stood out, though. The fact that Muslims now for the first time outnumber Jews, with a rate of increase making Islam the country's fastest-growing religion, is significant.
    It underlines the importance of getting to know one's Muslim neighbours and their faith better. At the same time it affords a much greater opportunity for doing so.
    Since there are about one billion Muslims worldwide, part of our children's education should include visiting a mosque and learning about the chief tenets of Islamic belief. (A handsomely illustrated book for children, What You Will See Inside A Mosque, has just been published by Skylight Paths, Woodstock, Vt., 800-962-4544.)
    The number of Roman Catholics was up by 4.8 per cent ? due to immigration from Catholic countries during the past decade ? to a whopping 12.8 million, thus reinforcing the reality that Canada is a predominantly Catholic land. The number of Protestants declined by about three-quarters of a million (772,830) and there was a big increase of 121 per cent of people who identify themselves simply as Christians without any particular denomination ( 780,450). They have dropped out of organized religion but retain vestiges of belief.
    The main headline-catcher in the census/religion story, however, was the large increase in the number of Canadians who marked down "no religion" on the forms. Nearly 5 million, or 16 per cent of the population ? a growth of 43.9 per cent over the 1991 census ? say they have no religion at all. When the question was first asked in 1971, only 4 per cent of Canadians registered as "religious nones," to use the sociological jargon.
    What struck me most reading the clippings of the past two months is not so much this particular statistic itself, but the extremely positive "spin" put out on this aspect of the story by almost every commentator.
    The census said there was a huge decline in all the major non-Roman Catholic Churches ? Presbyterians being particularly hard hit ? and a nearly 50 per cent increase in the number of those saying "no religion at all" in the past decade and yet the major message seemed to be that of: "Be of good cheer. They're staying away by the thousands, but never mind they'll all come back one day."
    The key source for this upbeat reception of what seemed to me to be bad news for religion in general ? particularly if anybody dared draw a graph and project some figures for the next ten years ? was the lone figure of sociologist Reginald Bibby. Apart from his own op-ed article in The Globe and Mail, May 14, his name kept cropping up in editorials and features as the basic authority for downplaying any negative-seeming aspects of the story.
    I did a front page story on Bibby's work as a tracker of religion in Canada in 1975. A teacher at the University of Lethbridge, he has issued a regular series of trend reports over the past 25 years.
    He has long been at pains to reassure the churches that most people who say they have no religion really don't mean it. This time, he says he's not bothered by the sharp rise in the ranks of the no-religioners. They're just taking a breather, a pause for the moment. The first time they need a wedding, a baptism, or a funeral, they'll rediscover their true identity.
    In the case of teens, he says that his research shows that two out of three who say they're "nothing" as teenagers call themselves "something," Anglican, Baptist, or whatever, within ten years.
    However, Bibby is a better pollster than he is an interpreter of the results. He chides the media for not understanding religious matters.
    He, however, lacks theological breadth and often ventures beyond his depth.
    The fact that people suddenly remember the church of their childhood or parents when they need to have the baby "done" is far from the same thing as remaining in or rediscovering their religious roots. Yes, many people still find it convenient to use the institution. This use, however, implies no commitment and certainly no core beliefs of any kind.
    I am in touch with large numbers of articulate, spiritually minded Canadians and they are increasingly finding church boring, irrelevant, even "dead." The current decline is a drop in the bucket compared with what's coming. The Catholic Church will not be excepted.
    I take no pleasure in it, but, all is far from well in Canada's churches. It's the role of false prophecy to cry otherwise just now.

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    Theologian and author Tom Harpur's books focus on spiritual growth. Contact him at harpur@ rogers.com.
    Additional articles by Tom Harpur

     

    Of all people Tom Harpur should know about the loss of faith and religious decline.  He is an ordained priest in the Anglican Church of Canada, while also professing that Jesus never existed as a real person and that Christianity is rooted in paganism, he is the author of The Pagan Christ.  
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